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 Albert Born : Drummer
 Band : Banehinge

 
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 Interview took place early Oct.  2004
 By Philip Kramer at RockWatch
 Photos provided by Albert Born 

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Albert Born

PK > Philip Kramer  AB > Albert Born
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PK > Were you born and raised in Minnesota?

AB > No, Madison, Wisconsin actually.  I moved to Minneapolis, Minnesota when I was 18.

PK > When did you start out on drums and have you played any other musical instruments?

AB > I started playing drums and all other percussion instruments in grade school.
    I can also play piano, trombone, guitar, bass, and vocals.

PK >  You were with two other Minnesota bands, 'Skrum' and 'Ocularis'.
  What can you say about working with those bands?

AB > I was actually in three other "official" working bands in Minnesota.  I also played in a band called Porcelain God for several years.  Porcelain God gave me a lot of experience and insight for future projects.  We had a good following and played a lot of great shows.  The music was intense and dynamic and I really enjoyed playing with the band.  I left Porcelain God when I moved to London, UK a few years ago.  When I came back from London, I eventually joined Skrum.  Skrum was all about being technical, fast, and having perfect execution.  We practiced long and hard, trying to be as flawless as possible on our crazy tempos, signatures, and time changes - and every minute was worth it.  Ocularis was always exciting for me.  The guys in Ocularis were really motivated and we worked very hard.  Within three months of forming we were playing a 45 minute original set at the local clubs.  We even played some music that I had written in other projects, which was great.  I joined Banehinge while I was still in Ocularis, with the original plan to play in both bands at the same time.  I eventually decided that focusing all of my efforts on Banehinge was the right thing to do, and had said good-bye to Ocularis.

PK > How much personal preference is there in the drum kit selection of drums and cymbals?

AB > It can be quite personal, as the kit on stage can say many things about the drummer behind it.  Most drummers have their own opinions of what looks and sounds good, or what is the perfect set up.  It's like trying to figure out what the best muscle car was...(like a 1971 Chevy Chevelle with a 4 speed on the floor and a 450 horsepower V8 monster under the hood...!)  To be honest, drum and cymbal selection is usually a lot of trial and error. Sometimes you don't know if you're going to like a particular piece of gear until you sit down and try it for a bit.  Most music shops will let you try something out and return it if you don't like it.  Keep all your receipts and experiment!  It depends on playing style, personal tastes, and how much money a drummer is willing to spend ...or how hard they want to look around for good deals!  You can get much more for your money on used gear, but you just have to be a bit more patient and know what types of wear and tear to avoid.  You should never buy something just because it's cheap, buy it because it sounds good!

PK > Does size matter : drum kit wise, when is it an advantage to have a large kit or small kit?

AB > If you can play a large kit and use everything on it, then it's good. Nothing beats seeing a monster kit on stage with a drummer that knows how to play it all.  ...but, if you're bringing extra stuff and don't use it, then it's foolish and you'll unimpress the crowd.  I play a large 9 piece double bass kit with 5 crashes, 2 splashes, 2 chinas, a ride and high hat.  I love playing this kit and use everything on it.  The size of kit depends on who you are.  Some say a larger kit is a pain in the ass to lug around, but it doesn’t bother me at all - it’s a labor of loving what I do.  Some say it's difficult for sound techs if you have a large kit - not so if you come prepared and speak to them before the show.  To make my drum sound even more consistent and easier on all sound techs, I internally mic'd my main kit and bring Y-cords and extra cables (making my 9 piece require the same mic inputs as a standard 5 piece, if needed).  I designed and made the internal microphone mounting system for my drums before I had even heard of anything like it being commercially available...and I still think mine is better!  Ha!  Once the sound techs see this and realizes that I am totally prepared for what's easiest for them, I always get a big smile.  If you really want to play a larger kit, you'll figure out how to make it work at any club.  I like playing a larger kit because it allows me to open up and really create some interesting patterns and fills.  It feeds me energy, makes me want to really give it my all.  Two bass drums give more punch and projection at faster double bass speeds (instead of one bass drum with a double pedal, where the head doesn't have a chance to completely rebound, to fully develop that "punchy" sound). Sometimes playing a smaller kit can be OK under special extreme circumstances, but it usually feels like a toy that I just want to break!

PK  > You've lived in the U.K. ( England ) for some time playing with at least two bands. What were the bands and how was the U.K. shows and scene at that time?

AB > The main band I played in was called "Locus".  We were labeled as "southern thrash metal".  We were based in London but none of us were even from the U.K.!  Two of us were from the states, one from Ireland, one from Turkey, and one from Italy.  We were sort of a melting pot and the music and stage show that came out of it was full of pit mongering aggression. We toured the UK and Ireland, and every minute of it was awesome.  We released a CD called "Dying In Sin" and shortly before I left an EP called "King of Doubt" while I was there.  I also played in a side project called ODM (One Deaf Maneuver).  It was heavier stuff, some of it tuned way down to low A, with lots of double bass.  We recorded a few tunes but never released them.  The scene was great, and the enthusiasm for metal over there was awesome.  You've got Ozzy and Iron Maiden that have been stirring things up over there for quite a while, along with the huge European metal scene just a stone's throw away.  They have an incredible hunger for metal.  It only took a few months of living there before I started meeting lots of people in the scene, figured out where all the clubs are, who to network with, etc.  It turned out to be really cool, and I made a lot of great new friends.

PK > What insights do you have on the European scene as it differs from here in the States?

AB > Well, to start with, all shows over there are pretty much all ages, which is really cool. (Plus the drinking age is usually 18, but even that isn't enforced nearly to the level it is in the States!)  The Europeans really like their metal (and beer...).  I think especially bringing some American influence over made everything even more interesting with Locus and they just ate it up.  I think any well polished and hard hitting metal band would do well in Europe if the right connections were made.  The European bands tended to be quite friendly and open, with most problems being solved over a pint of beer!

PK > How did you connect up with 'Banehinge'?

AB > I was in Skrum when I first met Banehinge.  Skrum's studio was right next to Banehinge's.  I would hang out with them from time to time or just stop by to say hello.  Chris (Banehinge bass player) put my name in the hat after they had tried several drummers out that just weren't quite what they wanted.  Chris and I had been friends for quite a while and had also played together before in a side project while I was in Skrum.  I was a bit hesitant at first since I was in Ocularis at the time, but I eventually decided to tryout - it was a great opportunity and I just couldn't pass it up.  Everything clicked right away - we all seemed to bethinking on the same level, had the same goals, knew each other, and got along great.  Chris and I have always enjoyed playing together as well, so that brought immediate energy to the whole band.  I jammed with them a couple of times and they asked me to join...

PK > What 'Banehinge' songs do you find to be their best?

AB > Hmmmm...that's a tough one.  I mean of course I like the new ones written right after I joined the band (like "Re:Born" and "Edge of Ruin"), that's a given!  Other ones I really like would have to be "Lemmings", "If I Can", "Jumped", "Stay Hyde", "Spirits".  Actually, I like them all!  We’ve also got a few more awesome new songs under the hood that we’re tweaking and writing vocals for right now, and I can’t wait to tear the scene up a bit more and get playing those out live.  I have a lot of fun playing with Banehinge and jamming out the songs - banging my head and breaking a few sticks while I’m at it!

PK > What would you like to say about the other members of the band?

AB > Pull my finger!  Oh, sorry - what would I like to say ABOUT, not TO them...  They all have talent, that's what I really like about them.  They know how to put on a good show and how to deliver energy.  We have fun together and can give each other crap and not worry about it.  We try to be open with each other and if something is wrong or bothering us we get it out in the open right away and deal with it.  We all are in this seriously and are willing to do what it takes to make it to the next level.

PK > Can studio work sometimes be more interesting than playing live?

AB > No.  ...don't get me wrong - I do enjoy studio work, but nothing will ever
    beat playing live!

PK > There are a large number of bands in the Minnesota area - can you name
    some that you enjoy seeing?

AB > Hmmmm...that's a tough one.  There are so many great bands out there. Usually if I'm at a show and you see me there, I'm enjoying it!  I love going to see live bands and seeing what's currently going on.

PK > Are you mostly a metal fan or can you sit back and listen to some classical or jazz?

AB > I can listen to anything as long as there are good musicians in the band, if it's a well written song, or if the stage show is entertaining.  Every once in a while I'll come across some classical or jazz on the radio and give it a listen.  That's what I was originally trained to play, so I do occasionally enjoy it.  My CD collection is really weird, but I do listen to a lot of metal.  I listen to every demo CD's that bands give me.  I'm always looking forward to new local and national stuff.  I like to give everything a chance, no matter what kind of music.

PK > How about some big band metal talk - past and present bands of interest?

AB > I've always been a big Slayer fan, Dave Lombardo being one of my favorite drummers. (Anything with Lombardo after he left Slayer for a while kicks ass as well, whether it’s Grip Inc., Fantomas, filling in for Testament, etc...)  ...and now that he’s back in Slayer...!  Iron Maiden will always be a favorite as well, even the Bruce Dickenson side project stuff like "Accident of Birth" and "Chemical Wedding".  Deicide and Obituary are some of my favorite old school death metal bands.  Old Metallica, of course. The Dave days of Van Halen.  Ozzy and Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Helloween.  Currently I really like Lamb of God and Killswitch Engage.  I just heard Unearth‘s new CD and thought it was pretty cool.  Soilwork's got some good stuff and I like a couple of Slipknot's songs.  There are so many bands I could list, but that's just a taste of what I like.  My favorite kind of metal now is usually a band that has a vocalist that can deliver brutal and emotional dynamic screams but also can sing, the drummer must be rock solid and intense (double bass a must!!!), and a string section that can hold it's own.  A high energy brutal stage show is paramount!  Total crap music can be made at least enjoyable to watch if there’s a great stage show.  I can't stand bands that just stand there
like they're naked or something...grrrrr...  Move around, damnit!

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