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This interview took place during Nov.-Dec. of 2003
By Philip Kramer at RockWatch
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Ryan Malmstorm : Dark Metal, Epicurean and future projects.
PK > Were you in any other bands before 'Epicurean'?
RM > Yes, I was in a few bands before Epicurean. In high school, I was the vocalist
for a band called the Accolade. We first started playing covers of Metallica,
Testament, Slayer, Extreme, Iron Maiden and CCR songs, then ventured off into
more of a progressive writing approach. We wrote some pretty technical
progressive thrash and then really toned down and focused on acoustic-based
material with more melodic vocals and complex drum work. I dusted off the
fingers, after years of not playing piano, to experiment with adding some synth
and samples to the music. It was really neat because not only did this add a
lot of depth to the music, but a lot of the guitars were sampled, so the
guitarist could solo without losing any of the main riffs. We only recorded a
handful of songs, before I was eventually given the "option" to continue with
the band as a full-time keyboardist or leave the fold entirely. At the time, I
considered myself much more of a vocalist, so I bowed out on good terms. As it
turns out, the band never really did anything after that.
After I left the Accolade, I enrolled in the Audio
Recording Specialist program at Hennepin Technical College in 1996. That was
where I met Lance Vien (rhythm guitarist of Epicurean) and Chris McPadden. We
bonded on the uprise of extreme metal and got along very well. Chris and I
eventually formed Lorde of all Desires with LeRue Delashay, David Schuppert and
Tony Williams (now guitarist of Stajia). The band took off REAL quick and we
recorded the EP "Crowned in Blasphemy." The music of Lorde was very technical,
dissonant and symphonic black metal, a style of music that was highly regarded
in Scandinavian countries, yet fairly new to the US. After the EP was released,
we played a number of local shows, as well as Metalfest, before catching the eye
of Earl Root, who was just starting out his Root O Evil Records label. With
enough material written, he agreed to put out and fund the full length "The
Scent of Malevolence." This task wouldn't go without turmoil though, as we
decided to oust LeRue from the fold. Shortly after, our bassist Chris, decided
to move to Georgia. This was also where I decided to start singing again,
because with the lineup change, only 1 vocalist (of 3) was left. The record was
put out and received high praise by not only local fans of metal, but
worldwide. We did a few of the Metalfest gigs, in Milwaukee and New Jersey,
before sitting down to write some more in hopes of putting out another album.
Progress with writing was really slow and I grew impatient. For some reason,
the chemistry between me and the other musicians in Lorde just wasn't working
out, so I left. I felt that the chemistry we had was long lost after Chris and
LeRue left, so perhaps that had a lot to do with my decision to leave. I truly
cherish the moments I spent in that band, as everyone I worked with helped me
grow as a musician. I don't think you could find a combination of musicians
that worked as well together as that "classic" Lorde lineup did.
PK > Was it always the aim of 'Epicurean' to be a dark metal band?
RM > Initially, John Gensmer and I had a desire to form a progressive metal side
project, while I was in Lorde and he was in the Acadian. I honestly don't know
how the music ended up the way it did, but it sure worked well! Some of the
material was from a solo album I recorded between the time I left Lorde and
started Epicurean. It was all of a very dark nature, so with some very thrashy,
almost death metal riffs that were presented by (then) guitarist Dave Whitmer,
our style was instantly defined. We had the style of a black metal band, yet
our lyrics didn't fit with what most black metal bands were doing. A lot of our
focus was on the supernatural, fantasy vs. reality, as well as songs that were
very personal in nature.
PK > Where did you grow up and how did you find your way into the music scene?
RM > Minnesota has been my home since I moved from Georgia in 1986. The Minneapolis
Metal scene has impressed me since the days of Powermad and Dominion. They
always packed the Mirage with the stinkiest, drunkest, most hardcore metal fans
you could imagine. I wanted to be a part of that! The beginning is rough,
since you play shows for little money, sometimes none, but the job gets done
some way or another. It makes the hard work worth your while when you can play
clubs like the Quest. Some nights are good, others horrible. One night you
could go on and there are 20 people in the crowd, but by the time you finish up,
there are 200. It worked like that a number of times in Lorde and Epicurean at
places that had two stages. A good portion of the time, people were checking
out those bands for the first time and word of mouth just spreads like
wildfire. Then, at the next show, you wonder where all these people are that
were hooting and hollering at the last one! Bands can kill their following real
quick if they play out too often. The gigging is an interesting sport though.
We've all been through hell and back, so there are no surprises.
PK > Did you play the piano or other instrument that led up to your current keyboard preference?
RM > At age 5, I began piano lessons. I followed through with that for a few years
until I discovered that guitar was a much cooler instrument. Or so I thought.
EVERYONE was playing guitar is high school, making it that much harder to get
into a band. As luck turns out, I ended up in a band where I played neither
guitar nor keyboards, but did the vocals. As previously explained above, I
eventually did play keyboards in my first band. I have been able to utilize my
guitar skills, as minimal as they are, to the bands I have been in.
PK > Could you ever see yourself playing the Bagpipes?
RM > Never had a desire to play bagpipes, although I would never rule it out. At
some point, I think it is every musicians goal to at least touch another musical
instrument and be able to learn it. The bagpipes take some great dedication, so
I don't think that is gonna be on my plate any time soon.
PK > Are there particular 'Epicurean' songs that you enjoyed working on and playing live more than others?
RM > "Ceremonies of the Moon" from the Epicurean album "VII.RVI" was easily my
favorite song. It was the one that seemed to sum up the band in one song.
There are some real good melodic vocals all over that song, as well as the
aggression that the other Epicurean songs hold. "Ceremonies" had some very
symphonic keyboards in multiple layers, as well as a serene acoustic interlude
and monumental climax. I had a blast recording it, because I had such a
distinct vision of how it should sound in the end that made it much easier to
record. I think it was one of the few songs on "VII.RVI" that most of the parts
were nailed in one take. Live, it was beautiful. Everyone had to be right on
for that song to work out and when it did, it felt like the world could just
stop and I'd be happy. I preferred the live version the most when I was doing
the lead vocals and Joey L. (ex-guitarist) was doing the harmonies. Our voices
flowed together real well.
PK > Are there many well known dark music keyboard players ?
RM > There are a ton of synth heavy-weights out there such as
Josh Silver of Type O Negative, Mortiis, Mustis of Dimmu Borgir, Ihsahn of
Emperor (and later, Charmand Grimlock)...the list goes one. Bands like Skinny
Puppy and Depeche Mode, back in the day, had some great synth arrangements that
paved the way for a lot of the up and coming bands. Even Savatage had some very
dark orchestral pieces on their albums. Synth used to be shunned in metal, but
it is far more acceptable now, as long as it is executed properly.
PK > On stage, a guitar player may break a string and a singer may crack their voice, what can happen with a keyboardist?
RM > I haven't really had anything tragic happen with my keys live. Usually the
sound guys are the culprits to any kind of keyboard shenanigans. I do suppose
that you could have one of your patches set to tuba instead of your spooky
strings sound, so that might not be very metal. Unless of course your name is
Opus.
PK > Who are some of the best dark metal
bands out there and are there any from the tropics? It
seems that most all come from the northern hemisphere.
RM > Have you tried to Google "tropical dark metal"? I highly doubt there are any
dark metal bands from the tropics, but then again, I never thought I'd see a
black metal band come from Indonesia... Some of my favorite dark metal bands out there are
Entwine, Type O Negative, My Dying Bride, HIM, To/Die/For, Dimmu Borgir and
Arcturus. There's also a really good local one i'm sure you've heard of, Cold
Colours. I'm also a huge fan of bands like Coldplay, Alice Cooper, Savatage,
Marillion, Kings X and Trans Siberian Orchesta.
PK > What are some of the first songs you remember hearing on the radio?
RM > Thankfully the only radio I really took note of was Z-Rock. They played some
fantastic stuff! I remember hearing "Edge of Thorns" from Savatage, but I
didn't have any idea that they had a new vocalist. I was thinking to myself
"ok, this sounds like Savatage, but more like Queensryche, but I don't know who
is singing." A song called "Miss You" from D'Priest was a good one that I
always heard. Some good ballads like "I'll Never Let You Go" from Steelheart
were always welcome to my ears. They really did play some good stuff, though.
Not like the junk you hear on radio. They'd throw in stuff you have never heard
or stuff that you haven't heard in years! Helloween, Slayer, Anthrax, GNR,
Bang Tango....tons of good stuff!!! A really good variety of metal, not just
what is currently popular. There was also this cool contest called Back
Rockwards, where they'd play a song backwards and you'd have to guess the song.
I'm tellin' ya, I could have won Alice Cooper tickets, but some meatball beat me
to it.
PK > Do you have some favorite shows or music venues that stand out as great live stage experiences?
RM > The best and worst show of my career is easily Lorde of all Desires performance
at Milwaukee Metalfest 98. We had gone after Shadows Fall (!!!) on the Rave Bar
stage and the place was PACKED! Here we were, a band from Minneapolis that no
one knew. We had no merchandise to sell, no website, nothing. From the moment
we walked into the place, our presence was felt. That must have been because of
the multitude of liquid latex and fake blood we used to "one up" the
panda-painted black metallers. Once we took the stage, though, the crowd was
nuts! We blazed through our first song and there was such an enormous amount of
energy in the room that I had come back down to earth and realized that I
couldn't hear a thing on that stage. I was struggling to just hear the drums!
It was crazy! Then, the heat started to affect the latex on our faces and a
portion of the bassists' "face" fell off!! I think we all left the stage with
half of the theatrical makeup we went there with. It was cool though. Metal
Maniacs wrote up a couple paragraphs about us and gave us the "Golden Goat Turd"
award for the weekend. Not quite sure if that is good or not....but Metalfest
was always such a fun time coupled with a lot of stress during the course of the
weekend just to play 30 minutes.
The places in Minneapolis I liked to play are The Lab
and The Quest. The soundmen were always pretty good there and I always felt at
home playing at those venues. Sharkeys, Mainstage and Underground, was my
absolute favorite though. Again, the sound was fantastic and there was always
such a diverse crowd there. How often would you get people wander down to the
Underground after just seeing E'Nuff Z'Nuff play the Mainstage and actually
stick around for your show?! Real good times there. Sharkeys is sorely
missed.
PK > What can you tell us about your future projects and plans as a musician?
RM > My future has a couple different paths to be traveled. First, I plan on getting
the Malmstorm project going. I've got a few tunes in the works, some
completed. I'll mostly focus on experimental electronic compositions mixed with
some classical/new age instrumentation. While I am doing that, I'll be in the
process of building a home studio. Once that is complete, and hopefully the
first Malmstorm album will be done, I will then turn focus to the Shadowchase
project. I'll play all the instruments on this one (keys, guitar, bass, drum
programming, vocals), similar to a more traditional "band"-type project. I've
got a few songs going now that are kind of a mixture of goth, industrial, jazz,
pop, progressive and black metal. It'll be a very eclectic mix, but these are
all styles that I have grown accustomed to over the years and it only makes
sense to combine all of my influences and meld them into one original project.
You can have a taste of what I am currently up to at: http://www.soundclick.com/pro/default.cfm?BandID=108631
PK > How would you define a successful music career?
RM > Success is what you make it. Some are never satisfied with the outcome of what
they do, while others are content with where they are at. It's nice if you can
make a living out of it, but I'm not there yet, so we'll see where the road
takes me.
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